Pachrian
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« Reply #105 on: July 21, 2010, 10:11:48 AM » |
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As it turns out P's Purple fades quite a bit. It was a silvery lavender last night, very even, light and soft...kinda pretty because it made the pollen and pollen pads stand out and glow.
The pic is from this morning, one bloom closing as another one opens, with yet another one on standby.
Second pic is Creole Lady, on its second day.
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« Reply #106 on: July 21, 2010, 11:24:51 AM » |
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P's Purple comes from a long line of European houseplant hibiscus. These are used on patios and balconies in summer but spend the rest of the year indoors near windows. The neat thing is that there are no lavender colored blooms in its ancestry, at least none that we know of. Must have been a gene for it somewhere since it popped out in this variety. Yvonne hybridized this one in Sweden. Maybe it was waiting to come to America to show this "new" color....
Charlie
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« Reply #107 on: July 22, 2010, 02:36:33 PM » |
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Finally a bloom to share!
Acapulco Gold with petaloids!
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« Reply #108 on: July 22, 2010, 11:34:32 PM » |
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Ugh so frustrating not seeing pix! my AG should bloom in a month or so. its on the south side of the house as i know AG likes a little more sun, at least for blooming.
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"They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." -Edgar Allan Poe
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Charlie
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« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2010, 08:22:46 AM » |
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Chris's photo of Acapulco Gold got me thinking about what people like in a hibiscus. Aca Gold often shows this "form with flair" rather than the more formal perfectly round and overlapped look preferred by show judges. Yet Acap Gold outsells most other hibiscus we offer. I think the bright colors are the main attraction and people tend to be flexible about form.
Charlie
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« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2010, 06:56:50 PM » |
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Well its not my exact favourite but close to it,saying that everyone who has admired my cv's always pick AG as there favourite.
Saying as you mention about the form of flowers i am a bit confused as to what is meant by ''cup and saucer'', is that not what is shown in Crise's photo.
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« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2010, 07:35:36 PM » |
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Here are a couple photo's from today,
Dragon's breath
Over the Rainbow
Ghost opened up also so I crossed pollenated it with Dragon's breath
Thanks, Patrick
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Charlie
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« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2010, 07:47:25 PM » |
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Some real beauties, Patrick. Over The Rainbow is always a treat. I'd love to see a reverse of Dragon's Breath - what you might get when crossing it with the all white Ghost. Imagine a white with red swirls!
Charlie
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« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2010, 07:52:09 PM » |
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The overcast mornings and sunny afternoons we've been having lately bring out a lot of great blooms. Today's photos are all pairs - 2 each of the different varieties. Two of these are of unnamed seedlings, one blueish and the other brown. We also have a pair of Cranberry Muffins - seems like this variety blooms multiples often, and a delightful pair of White Diamond blooms. Great little flower but a rather weak bush which is why my arm shows holding the stems up to get the photo. Last is a pair of Blues In The Night, an all around excellent new variety.
Charlie
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« Reply #114 on: July 23, 2010, 08:17:51 PM » |
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Great photos Charlie! Now I am new to this, but I like to play a game when I see your seedlings. I like to try to think of the parents... I was wondering if one of the parents of the brown seedling is Saffron? I'm partial to Saffron. It's my favorite that I have so far!
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Pachrian
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« Reply #115 on: July 23, 2010, 09:24:04 PM » |
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Charlie, they are all great. And they have one thing in common-- they all have red pollen pads (is that even the correct term?). I love red ones!
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« Reply #116 on: July 24, 2010, 12:14:26 AM » |
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Charlie, That first new seedling is awesome, blue with those cool leaves!  I was thinking about how to increase the probability of getting a blue flower with white swirling, like Dragon's Breath. I was doing some research and came across some Tigerama seedlings that showed this white swirling effect. Since Tigerama is a brown, it is more likely to produce blue offspring when crossed to another blue. Have you also seen Tigerama pffspring that have the white swirling? If you can get swirling with Tigerama it could be a better place to start to get a blue flower with white swirling than DB. What is your experience with hybridizing using Tigerama? Im thinking crosses like: Tigerama x Denium Revolution, Tigerama x My Blue Heaven, Tigerama x Icestorm and Tigerama x Snowstorm. What do you think? |
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« Reply #117 on: July 24, 2010, 07:09:06 AM » |
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Red and orange stigma pads are favored by hybridizers due to being able to see the yellow pollen so well in contrast. Yellow pads make it hard to see if you have placed enough pollen on them.
I like to guess parents, too. Unfortunately, we can guess all we want about the brown but we won't know since I lost the tag that has the info on it. Plant tags have evolved over time but are still an issue. Lately all my seedlings have had strip tags looped around the base of the seedlings. In theory these will never come off but in practice the little seedling grows up quickly and as the base of the main truck swells the tag is stretched to the max and at around the 2 year mark it will break due to the ever increasing size of the main trunk. So........nowadays I place the tag higher on the seedling or better yet on a side branch that will not grow big enough to snap the tag. Will this solve the lost info problem? It better!
Chris, using Tigerama is a good idea in many ways. Zulu Warrior came from Tigerama. The problem with Tigerama is that its offspring rarely root and must be grafted. Still, it does give good progeny in most other respects and I have been meaning to use it more often. I'll probably graft a few plants of it this year so others interested in using it for hybridizing can give it a try. It's one of the nicest "brown" flowers to come along and worth growing just for its own sake. Below is a photo of Tigerama showing a lot of white swirls.
It's time to start crossing with the other blues you mentioned, too. I feel like we have only scratched the surface of creating new blue flowers and want to keep that going to see where it takes us.
Charlie
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« Reply #118 on: July 24, 2010, 08:16:15 AM » |
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I agree Charlie, put me on the list for a Tigerama. Ive been trying to get a hold of one for a while for that very reason |
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Nievesgirl
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« Reply #119 on: July 24, 2010, 01:34:24 PM » |
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