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« on: August 18, 2009, 10:29:20 AM » |
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Have you tried setting seed or using pollen from this cv? Its pedigree is solid  |
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Charlie
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 03:15:28 PM » |
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No seed setting attempted yet. Surely I used the pollen a few times but mostly the wood is cut to build up supplies as is always the case for me. That means no flowers until it grows out again. Only when I know the cv better and when I have enough plants of it do I start crossing in a big way with a new one. I sometimes wish I could start crossing with a new one sooner but this is probably best anyway since I can learn more about the qualities of new cvs before bringing them into the mix again.
Charlie
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helixturnhelix
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 05:30:23 PM » |
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That makes alot of sense. Looks like I might have to do some of the new cv crosses for you and send you the seeds. lol
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Charlie
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 07:12:47 AM » |
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Quite true! I'd be happy to grow out any seeds from my newer cvs if you end up with excess. They take space and time and resources to grow as anyone who gets in over their head knows, but that special one that comes along from time to time makes it a labor of love.
Charlie
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helixturnhelix
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 10:05:37 AM » |
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I will have excess, no worries about that.  I have been collecting mostly your tried and true varieties and new ones to hybridize with. I figure you probably hybridize with similar plants, and many of your newer varieties have pretty interesting qualities I would like to work with |
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Nievesgirl
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 10:18:48 AM » |
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Awesome I was just thinking about this the other day ! I have made some crosses and I was thinking of sending you seeds Charlie so you can grow them. Let us know when you are ready !  The seeds I have ( 162) from another hybridizer I am about to grow ( as soon as I get my t5 fixture) I was hoping to seed you some once they get bigger because space is limited here lol |
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Charlie
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 09:02:07 AM » |
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162, eh? That will take up a lot of space for sure!! It will be interesting to see how many germinate and how many make it to the "safe" size. Don't feel bad if a lot don't, that's normal, but you should get several dozen that make it. When you get to the overflow stage let me know and we can figure out what to do. I have the space to grow them, getting them here might be the challenge.
Have fun!
Charlie
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jpiper82
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 09:54:18 AM » |
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Charlie, My Flickering Flame is a beautiful plant, large tall and a lush green with lots of new underlying growth. It is probably 2-2 1/2 ft tall. The problem is it has not started to bud up yet. Any thoughts? As you know they all get the same treatment. A-Gold has also been slow and I expect to see the first bloom in 1-2 weeks.
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Charlie
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 10:44:05 AM » |
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John, new plants of Flickering Flame do take longer to bud up than a lot of other varieties. But, once they do start you should see plenty of blooms. One experiment you could make is to only fertilizer with Booster (potassium nitrate) for a week and see if the shift to lower nitrogen and higher potassium will influence the plant to slow down growth and initiate blooming.
Charlie
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jpiper82
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 08:05:21 AM » |
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John, new plants of Flickering Flame do take longer to bud up than a lot of other varieties. But, once they do start you should see plenty of blooms. One experiment you could make is to only fertilizer with Booster (potassium nitrate) for a week and see if the shift to lower nitrogen and higher potassium will influence the plant to slow down growth and initiate blooming.
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helixturnhelix
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 07:10:52 AM » |
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As promised a bush of a 1 year old Flickering Flame |
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Charlie
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 08:10:57 AM » |
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Chris, the nice glossy shine on Flickering Flame leaves sure came through well on your photos. I don't know what causes this glossiness that some hibiscus varieties show but I think it is a desirable feature. I also wonder if it relates to insect attraction in some way since the few I can think of that have this glossiness do not seem to have as much trouble with mites and others. No hibiscus is totally mite resistant but Blonde Ambition is another that has the shine and also does not get mites as much. An open question for now, and it might not turn out to be related to glossiness.
Charlie
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2010, 09:07:43 AM » |
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My Illuminati shines like that too, although it currently has mites.
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helixturnhelix
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2010, 01:32:57 PM » |
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Flickering flame does have high gloss thats for sure, it really is a beautiful bush for its age and size. I only cut my 4 inch back once last year and bam full bush, I hope to see some buds on it soon Usually glossy leaves is caused from a waxy substance (cuticle) being produced to insulate the leaf from heat and water loss. Do you find that these glossy varieties are more heat tolerant as well? It would be interesting to know if that is also the case. Saffron has high gloss leaves and so does Cindy's Heart and both those varieties stand up better to normal to heat in my experience. Interestingly Black Dragon and Dragon's Breath both do not have glossy leaves, and both do not like hot weather at all. Acapulco gold also does not have glossy leaves and it is always the first of my plants to show heat stress. Perhaps there is a correlation here |
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2010, 01:56:30 PM » |
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Chris, I'm so glad you mentioned that about Acapulco Gold! I had mine in full sun thinking it was a cv that might do well in heat, but it is the FIRST plant to wilt in such conditions. In fact, its 90 here today after being in 80s for awhile, and AG is wilting. I might put it under my shade porch seeing as it doesn't seem to do as well in full sun.
Thought I was the only one!!
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