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Author Topic: July Flower Photos of the Day  (Read 235785 times)
farmer d
Farmer D

Posts: 5573


Hollywood, CA


« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2012, 06:04:17 PM »

Have to agree with that, absolutely stunning.
Darren a question I have and I hope it makes sense. You spray your plants a lot, I am not sure but maybe even daily, the question I have is do you put less water [as in the drench method] in the ground or in the pot as a result, is the run off from your spraying enough to feed and water the plants.

I have a good reason for asking, I have got myself in a bit of a pickle by overwatering some of my plants [I only use the drench method], in fact I have 2 or 3 that are actually drowning and will need to be re-potted.



Hi David:
Your question could not have come at a better time as I have learned so much more over the last couple of months regarding watering and spraying my plants.

I know this is a long answer but I hope putting all the info out there helps as many as possible...

Everything has changed for me after I replanted all of my 80+ hibiscus over the last two months.  Aside from being the most exhausted I've ever been in my life this has been well worth it and totally fascinating for me.  

I realized that back in 2010 when I originally got my first 13 plants which were mostly 4"ers the holes I dug were really just for that size.  Basically way too small for when they got bigger (like now) and the heavy saturated clay soil surrounding them just created a clay prison for each plant's roots for future growth.

I noticed this spring that my plants just didn't seem as robust as expected and the leaves yellowed so easily with the slightest bit of watering and loss of leaves from trunk up to at least mid branch told me the roots were having issues supporting the plant size.  In my head I see a proportion of root size to plant size and with my dinky holes and clay soil prisons my plants were out of balance where the roots just couldn't keep up with the growth my plants wanted.

Long story short I dug out a couple to see and sure enough for tall and mature plants some really pathetic rootballs or lack there of.  Just 3 or 4 main roots trying to grow as far away from the plant as possible looking like they're trying to find better soil conditions elsewhere.  No feeder roots or rootballs to the point where a couple of my hibs were actually falling over due to lack of roots to secure them in place.

After seeing this I dug out all planters 1 to 1.5 feet down and put in a bottom layer of cactus mix for drainage and then Ocean Forest soil for all planters and plants.  That was an insane workload!

The replanting is a story in itself as I wouldn't remove the plants completely but very carefully dug around and under the roots best I could with a weeder leaving several main roots intact so the plant would not go into major shock.  Worked out well as I only lost Electric Orange and that was a weird one as the roots were growing like crazy but the plant rotted from somewhere around the trunk above the ground.

After all this I wondered if and how the watering parameters of my plants would change with new soil, better drainage and warmer weather.  Well the results for me is that I no longer have any yellow leaves or loss of leaves due to saturated soil only if I water very carefully.  I can't just go crazy and drench the soil even with all the positive changes.  Maybe that will be less of a factor as the root systems start to aggressively grow out in the next several months but yours are in pots so only so far those roots can go amplifying the water effect.  Also the weather here has been very mild so far with just a handful of days in the 80s so water needs have been mild.

I'm at a point now where if I just spray my plants daily with Supernova (which is the plan) that should be enough to water them aside from a monthly feeding of special blend, supernova and quelant-k.  Right now I have backed off the daily spraying until my soil dries out a little from the automatic watering for three weeks when I was on vacation early June.  So my answer is yes, I can use just the run off from spraying and be fine going forward unless a heatwave hits.

If we ever get a heat wave this summer then I'll be watching very carefully to see how much I should increase the watering.  Again some planters get full sun others don't so it is a case by case basis here.  I have noticed that my porch pot's soil dries out more quickly but that top dry layer can be very deceiving so I use my water meter, temp gauge and a lot of careful observation.  I even bought a roll down shade I can throw up in a hurry for really hot afternoons as my porch faces west.

If you decide to go to spraying daily or close to that the battery powered sprayer is a must.  I went from 3+ hours a day spraying by hand to 30 minutes.  I have a life again!

Farmer D
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davidwood
David In Nha Trang Vietnam

Posts: 1054



« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2012, 07:09:41 PM »

Thanks Darren, very helpful. I have been massively over watering my plants and its caused me a few problems, I have a decent meter now and will be keeping a close eye.
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farmer d
Farmer D

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Hollywood, CA


« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2012, 07:27:29 PM »

David I'm glad that was useful.  I still see a really big improvement with the amount of buds when spraying a lot with supernova.  When I got back from being out of town for 3 weeks I felt like I had to make up for not spraying while gone.  The irony is I ended up over watering when you combine daily spraying with my timed sprinkler setup.  What I've ended up doing is attaching elbows and pipe extensions to all of my in-planter sprinkler heads so I can swivel the heads all the way to the edge of each planter and water only the grass which is a thirsty one.  Now spraying daily with supernova is enough for now...



Farmer D


* Tahitian Lavender Mist 7-6.jpg (285.83 KB, 2035x1839 - viewed 1071 times.)

* Tahitian Lavender Mist Twins 7-6.jpg (285.66 KB, 2565x939 - viewed 793 times.)
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farmer d
Farmer D

Posts: 5573


Hollywood, CA


« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2012, 07:34:02 PM »

Got my first two really nice Bonnie Lass blooms today too.  The look is one of the softest satin texture when first opening - always stops me in my tracks for closer investigation.


Farmer D


* Bonnie Lass 7-6.jpg (284.56 KB, 1878x1767 - viewed 743 times.)

* Acapulco Gold 7-6.jpg (284.18 KB, 1810x1875 - viewed 681 times.)

* Black Dream Sextuplets 7-6.jpg (290.14 KB, 2017x1684 - viewed 713 times.)

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farmer d
Farmer D

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Hollywood, CA


« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2012, 07:40:26 PM »

Tahitian Lavender Rainbow shows more promise as you can now start to see the beginnings of a lavender ring separate from the hot pink eye.  This plant was way overwatered even after replanting so I'm surmising as the soil dries out it should really gain a lot of color.  Can't wait to see...

Flickering Flame is a super bloomer now....

Farmer D


* Tahitian Lavender Rainbow 7-6.jpg (284.77 KB, 2080x1866 - viewed 838 times.)

* Flickering Flame Septuplets 7-6.jpg (347.03 KB, 2449x1839 - viewed 733 times.)

* Living Legend 7-6.jpg (289.75 KB, 1905x1869 - viewed 683 times.)

* Rainbow Sherbet 7-6.jpg (288.38 KB, 1860x1794 - viewed 762 times.)

* Rise and Shine 7-6.jpg (288.02 KB, 2502x1052 - viewed 718 times.)

* Some Like It Hot 7-6.jpg (288.7 KB, 1684x1785 - viewed 699 times.)
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farmer d
Farmer D

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Hollywood, CA


« Reply #50 on: July 06, 2012, 07:46:27 PM »

Palm Springs has such a strong bush but even it was having issues with over watering.  Now it is just about done losing leaves on it's lower extremities and the rest are greening up again...

Farmer D


* Palm Springs 7-6.jpg (289.21 KB, 1900x1835 - viewed 692 times.)

* Tahitian Princess 7-6.jpg (290.99 KB, 2094x1927 - viewed 713 times.)

* Donna Lynn 7-6.jpg (287.62 KB, 2592x1944 - viewed 721 times.)
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davidwood
David In Nha Trang Vietnam

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« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2012, 02:37:19 AM »

David I'm glad that was useful.  I still see a really big improvement with the amount of buds when spraying a lot with supernova.  When I got back from being out of town for 3 weeks I felt like I had to make up for not spraying while gone.  The irony is I ended up over watering when you combine daily spraying with my timed sprinkler setup.  What I've ended up doing is attaching elbows and pipe extensions to all of my in-planter sprinkler heads so I can swivel the heads all the way to the edge of each planter and water only the grass which is a thirsty one.  Now spraying daily with supernova is enough for now...


Today was the Tahitian Lavender Mist & Climax show...

Farmer D
Just one more thing Darren, do you spray Kontos or use as a drench? I have just been trying to work out the label and if I am correct as a spray you use about one eighth compared to the drench, with the price of it that's a very big saving, it appears to be the same with Fert, when you spray you don't need so much.
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motherof4

Posts: 397



« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2012, 09:42:21 AM »

Wow...everyones blooms are so nice....darren as always...your blooms are amazing!!.....I have a some like it hot..and it is growing really well...but no blooms....oh well Im sure it will eventually......here are some of my blooms....lynette


* abracadabra (2).jpg (178.74 KB, 300x400 - viewed 1399 times.)

* abracadabra.jpg (180.91 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1348 times.)

* electric orange,,star of india.jpg (208.02 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1312 times.)

* electric orange.jpg (193.55 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1318 times.)

* love story (1).jpg (177.08 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1434 times.)

* love story (2).jpg (185.74 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1278 times.)
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motherof4

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« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2012, 09:44:35 AM »

and some more....


* mai tai (1).jpg (169.92 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1380 times.)

* mai tai (2).jpg (167.74 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1408 times.)

* naked lady (2).jpg (180.02 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1416 times.)

* naked lady.jpg (188.21 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1217 times.)

* pina colada (2).jpg (169.8 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1372 times.)

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motherof4

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« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2012, 09:47:08 AM »

and the rest....


* purple magic.jpg (197.97 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1307 times.)

* soft spot.jpg (163.79 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1437 times.)

* star of india.jpg (178.2 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1417 times.)

* sunrise dance.jpg (184.65 KB, 400x300 - viewed 1236 times.)
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farmer d
Farmer D

Posts: 5573


Hollywood, CA


« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2012, 01:42:10 PM »

Just one more thing Darren, do you spray Kontos or use as a drench? I have just been trying to work out the label and if I am correct as a spray you use about one eighth compared to the drench, with the price of it that's a very big saving, it appears to be the same with Fert, when you spray you don't need so much.

David I use it as a drench.  I mix it in my 2 gallon watering can with 2 capfuls of Supernova or even add it to one of my feedings if that is on my schedule that day.  I've been wondering though with the battery powered sprayer I can really get in there and strongly spray under each leaf and everywhere else to wash those guys right off.  So maybe the Kontos might not be needed much at all this year and going forward...we'll see.


* Acapulco Gold 7-7.jpg (283.72 KB, 2592x1944 - viewed 609 times.)

* Acapulco Gold 7-7.2.jpg (285.2 KB, 2592x1944 - viewed 617 times.)

* Chariots of Fire Twins 7-7.jpg (286.26 KB, 2400x1944 - viewed 541 times.)

* Daisy Mae 7-7.jpg (285.42 KB, 2061x1882 - viewed 567 times.)

* Donna Lynn 7-7.jpg (288.41 KB, 1751x1668 - viewed 532 times.)

* Big Four 7-7.jpg (291.39 KB, 2377x1052 - viewed 537 times.)
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farmer d
Farmer D

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Hollywood, CA


« Reply #56 on: July 07, 2012, 01:50:17 PM »

Darren, where do you buy quelant-k? I've never been able to find it. Thanks.

Hi John,

I had a devil of a time finding it too.  Here is the link to the online store that carries it.  Not cheap but I really like the extra potassium along with a lot of other good things.

http://catalog.ehgriffith.com/info.php/cPath/40_561/products_id/8838

Farmer D


* Flickering Flame 7-7.jpg (286.96 KB, 2332x1763 - viewed 557 times.)

* Flickering Flame Twins 7-7.jpg (286.89 KB, 2430x1605 - viewed 602 times.)

* High Voltage 7-7.jpg (288.63 KB, 2332x1817 - viewed 539 times.)

* Magic Crystal 7-7.jpg (286.95 KB, 2337x1812 - viewed 564 times.)

* Palm Springs 7-7.jpg (289.05 KB, 2332x1790 - viewed 541 times.)
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farmer d
Farmer D

Posts: 5573


Hollywood, CA


« Reply #57 on: July 07, 2012, 01:56:35 PM »

I really hope T Lavender Rainbow keeps coming along the bush is a super brancher and boy it loves to bloom...

And a giant Valentines Day, actually most of them are now over 9" regularly...

Farmer D


* Tahitian Lavender Rainbow Twins 7-7.jpg (290.84 KB, 2538x1855 - viewed 558 times.)

* Rainbow Sherbet Twins & Bonnie Lass 7-7.jpg (284.37 KB, 1791x2398 - viewed 615 times.)

* Bonnie Lass 7-7.jpg (287.79 KB, 1941x1767 - viewed 602 times.)

* Bonnie Lass Day 2 7-7.jpg (289.89 KB, 1806x1794 - viewed 592 times.)

* Tahitian Lavender Mist Plant & Day 2 Twins 7-7.jpg (291.63 KB, 2529x1209 - viewed 520 times.)

* Valentines Day 7-7.jpg (291 KB, 1747x1839 - viewed 536 times.)
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farmer d
Farmer D

Posts: 5573


Hollywood, CA


« Reply #58 on: July 07, 2012, 02:07:03 PM »

These cut blooms are destined to for vases in the house, I try to pick the ones that bloom in spots no one will see...I know Valentines Day is super reflexed but it now has 4 zones of color - truly beautiful to say the least...

Farmer D


* Acapulco Gold Twins & Valentines Day 7-7.jpg (292.15 KB, 2591x962 - viewed 590 times.)

* Rum Runner 7-7.jpg (277.39 KB, 2332x1803 - viewed 523 times.)

* Simple Pleasures Day 2 7-7.jpg (291.82 KB, 1887x1659 - viewed 558 times.)

* Picante 7-7.jpg (292 KB, 2040x1828 - viewed 614 times.)
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helixturnhelix
Seattle, WA

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« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2012, 02:32:32 PM »

Magic Crystal sure looks magical Smiley
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