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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2011, 06:56:00 AM » |
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Peppermint Drop looks great in your conditions, David. I'm glad to see it took the heat well. Superb Creme de la Creme, Jordan. The flowers have excellent size and form but its the unusual combo of colors that made us like it so well. Funny bumpy leaves, though. Never have been sure where those came from.
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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2011, 07:37:37 AM » |
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A few from today
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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2011, 11:06:13 AM » |
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Darren, I too think your plant is Hot Pepper. Mine bloomed like that after I fed HVH booster several times. Charlie, does CDLC ever seem to pass its crinkly leaves onto its offspring? I think they're cool and unusual. 
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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2011, 11:21:37 AM » |
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Hey Darren,
I still think that you still have Hot Pepper there, unless Charlie mismarked several of that cultivar. I think yours looks so different because of the high fertilizer regime you use compared to other forum members. I remembered a picture posted by Bart, who used a heavy fertilizer regime and had Hot Pepper blooms that looked just like yours. Check it out here:
Wow Chris you outdid yourself! You have an impressive recall to remember that off the top of your head...or work the search engine better than me. Without a doubt Bart's HP is identical to mine, right down to the leaves. Which is the one thing that keeps throwing me way off. Can a heavy fertilizer regime (and heavy water as this is near a sprinkler head that keeps it really wet) cause the leaves to be altered to such a degree? Jordan you just mentioned that yours did that with the blooms too. How about the leaves if you remember? If so then that is amazing and I never would have thought that the plant's leaf shapes can be so altered. The leaves in Bart's pics are just like mine so if someone else can confirm it then that leads to a very interesting characteristic to look for - in hibiscus if not plants in general. Also amazing that the blooms can vary to this degree - just look at the photos below for comparison. I know other factors are involved too...Bart is in Kentucky so climate wise pretty different. Interesting!!! Sounds like Sonic Pepper might not ever get off the ground... Thanks again Chris that was really helpful. Farmer D
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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2011, 11:29:41 AM » |
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Hey Jordan, Ive been doing some sleuthing with CDLC offspring, and the census is many of its offspring are slower growers or for some reason are unusually susceptible as seedlings and fail to make it to blooming size. If you are going to hybridize with it, I think that crossing it to P's purples or P's Purple's F1 (Raindrop, Winter Lights, Sparkling Water, etc) would give you the greatest probability of success. Actually crossing CDLC to Raindrop would be really interesting because it would be line breeding Rainbow Christie, and line breeding produces some really cool offspring and usually some unexpected surprises. So far Raindrop and Winter Lights seedlings are pretty vigorous, really good CVs to hybridize with, for bushes at least 
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« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2011, 11:36:00 AM » |
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No problem Darren, glad I could help  Leaves seem to change alot with amount of sun they get. In hot all day sun, the leaves are likely going to look pretty different from a plant that is grown in more shade. Humidity also seems to play a role in it as well, my CVs in Colorado had smaller and more firm leaves compared to what they have now up in the cool and humid PNW. Nutrients also plays a role as well. I can see changes happening with my Silver Dragon since using my own fertilizer mix and growing under lights, the new growth is coming out very glossy and firm compared to the leaves it came with. I will try and take a picture of it a bit later
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« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2011, 01:01:47 PM » |
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Good weather conditions for some bush shots...
Southwest planter from lft to rt: Acapulco Gold, High Voltage, Venetian Brick & All That Jazz
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« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2011, 01:04:46 PM » |
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more bush shots...
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« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2011, 01:07:38 PM » |
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more bushes...
The Path is the short one front left, SLIH tall one in back and just to it's right behind the Lime Tree branches is Electric Orange
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« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2011, 01:39:32 PM » |
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Its time to prune Darren! Since it never freezes in LA, the fall prune technique will work well for you. Getting a little bit of new growth before winter and when spring comes, they will take off. Your bushes show really nice growth, but if you want your bushes fuller next year its time to prune! I know if you do it now, you will be happy with the results next year  (and you can share cuttings with all your forum friends  Also pics of the new shiny leaves on silver dragon
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« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2011, 01:50:30 PM » |
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I think you are right chris...I need to too....So many of mine though have buds....but a lot not...so I am pruning a few at a time...I am new at this only a couple of years and never was quite sure when to prune  ....lynette
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« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2011, 02:58:54 PM » |
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Chris, your like an open book! so smart Darren, your photo are looking so great. Love the shots. And David, as always thanks for showing us the whole garden shots. Always a pleasure to see your garden. I have always been a macro photographer at heart so I tend to shoot real tight shots of my hibiscus... I forget to show the whole picture... the whole plant is so nice for everyone to see. And Because your camera seems to right itself after you format the card, I would say that your problem is more then likely your card. Thankfully not your camera. I would buy a new one... because once they start to go, they usually wont recover. Sorry kristen, do you mean the card that stores the photo's , if it is I have a spare allready, or is there another card in the camera that makes it all work that will need to be replaced.
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« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2011, 03:36:52 PM » |
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Its time to prune Darren! Since it never freezes in LA, the fall prune technique will work well for you. Getting a little bit of new growth before winter and when spring comes, they will take off. Your bushes show really nice growth, but if you want your bushes fuller next year its time to prune! I know if you do it now, you will be happy with the results next year  (and you can share cuttings with all your forum friends  Also pics of the new shiny leaves on silver dragon I can come over and help if you need help Darren I have bought a lot of hibiscus from my friend's collection and she did not prune often. A lot of the bushes where misshaped and not growing the way I would like. I hacked them up so they should look nice for next year. I have some at my BFs I will prune back now since its getting cold. I will post before and after prunes on Wednesday
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« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2011, 03:53:58 PM » |
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Darren that is a wonderful set of photo's of your bushes, very enjoyed looking. I know your garden is different than mine [Cyndy calls mine formal and its what I like]and I am constantly pruning, but with you having such bigger bushes you could prune them into fantastic shape, which would make even more blooms, and can you imagine your Valentines Day next year as a huge perfect oval,awesome.
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« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2011, 07:05:33 PM » |
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As always it is a battle in my head as to do I want to continue seeing blooms for a few more months or take the short term hit for the long run gain.
Some bushes could use it and others seem like they are growing into fine shapes with good bud counts. I hate to lose height as I am trying to cover up that ugly wall behind them but if I prune all of them does that mean way more blooms even for the monster bushes like COF, FF & RS? Probably...
Anyways, here are today's blooms....hey what happened it's already dark out?
1st time ever for Saffron (mini but I'll take it) and amazing Bonnie Lass.
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