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Title: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on November 28, 2008, 07:52:16 AM
Blue Ballerina is one of the most notable miniature flowers (always under 5 inches) that we grow. The stand out qualities that we like about it are how much it blooms and particularly the shade of darker blue color of the blooms. We have not grown or seen another variety with this color of blue. The plant is compact with many stems, and since each stem is capable of producing flowers Blue Ballerina is rarely without one or more once it reaches a mature size. It also sets seeds, which makes further hybridizing with Blue Ballerina an attractive idea.

Someone may want to comment about the effects of proper fertilizer on Blue Ballerina color, as this has been reported to have interesting and worthwhile results.

Dreamin' blue hibiscus this morning,

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: krustyart on November 28, 2008, 10:04:30 AM
Blue Ballerina

First picture is Blue Ballerina before I started using HVH Fertilizer.
Second picture is after I used HVH Fertilizer for two weeks.

Dispite it's small bloom size, Blue Ballerina is one of my favorite CV's.  It is always covered in blooms even during the cold snap we have been having.  It braches well and has nice glossy medium green leaves. This CV gets lots of second glances and comments from neighbors. It has been setting seed well from being pollinated with Purple Magic, Night Runner, Black Jack and Tahatian Taui.  Blue Ballerina benifits from good nutrition and micronutrients. In addition to HVH fertilizer I use a "Palm Nutritional" from Home Depot.

ART


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: nina on January 02, 2009, 03:06:09 PM
Hi, Art,

The difference is fantastic! 



Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on June 05, 2009, 12:20:29 PM
I can't wait to get one ! i really love the color of this cultivar


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on July 01, 2009, 03:00:06 PM
I should be getting mine either today or tomorrow !  I could not help my self from buying it  ;D


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: helixturnhelix on July 01, 2009, 04:25:00 PM
Kerry,

You will love it!  It is a big bloomer its too bad the flowers dont last longer.  AND best of all its a seed setter :)


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on July 01, 2009, 06:12:58 PM
Kerry,

You will love it!  It is a big bloomer its too bad the flowers dont last longer.  AND best of all its a seed setter :)

I got it already ! YES !    no I need to wait till it blooms  :D


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on July 02, 2009, 08:44:09 AM
Hi Kerry,

If the Blue Ballerina you have now is the one I'm thinking it was, there is a good example of branching in that plant. If you look at it you should be able to see where the main stem was pinched about a month ago. It will be calloused over now but you can still see where it was. But now, look at what is happening - I counted 8 or so breaks where new stems are growing out of the main stem. This is why we pinch and prune. Not all varieties react to pinching with this many new stems but Blue Ballerina is good about branching. All those small new side stems will rapidly grow and most will bloom this summer. The more branches, the more flowers. Hurray!

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: helixturnhelix on July 02, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
For me blue ballerina also branches very well.  I bought her last year on her first online appearance :)  I got some other 4' pot sized plants earlier this year (Bonnie Lass and LL) that were only one stem, so I pinched the top and now I see an explosion of growth!  LL has at least 5 nodes that I hope will turn into branches, and Bonnie Lass has at least three.  I think I will start pinching the tips when I get the 4' size pots as a standard now.  I dont know if this is true for everyone, but I find that there is a lag period in growth after I transplant my baby plants into a bigger pot size.  I might as well use this lag period to get more branches because I have significant new growth after about a month on the pinched guys, which is around the same time I start to get rapid growth on the unpinched.   The most significant example of this is when I was impatient and bought a 'Black Dragon" from another online source, when I received the plant in the mail it looked like a stick with four leaves on top, about 7 inches tall, and was the most pathetic specimen I have seen.  Needless to say I was pretty disappointed.  I threw the plant in a pot and pretty much forgot about it, and just figured I would get another one from HVH when they are in stock.  I decided to pinch the top of this 'stick' about two months ago and wow what a change! The whole stem is leafing out I see several branches forming!  Perhaps this plant isnt lost afterall :D  I love my 6' pot size plants, but I really enjoy the 4' because I get a bigger sense of accomplishment when I have a big beautiful plant that I grew from a small un-extraordinary piece of wood.  I attached a picture of my 'Black Dragon' I just wish I had a before picture :P


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on July 03, 2009, 09:12:53 AM
Hi Kerry,

If the Blue Ballerina you have now is the one I'm thinking it was, there is a good example of branching in that plant. If you look at it you should be able to see where the main stem was pinched about a month ago. It will be calloused over now but you can still see where it was. But now, look at what is happening - I counted 8 or so breaks where new stems are growing out of the main stem. This is why we pinch and prune. Not all varieties react to pinching with this many new stems but Blue Ballerina is good about branching. All those small new side stems will rapidly grow and most will bloom this summer. The more branches, the more flowers. Hurray!

Charlie

Yes ths most be the same plant you speak of. It has so many new branches growing at the bottom  :D


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: helixturnhelix on July 07, 2009, 12:51:17 PM
She bloomed today :) and I crossed her to belle du jour


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on July 07, 2009, 04:04:06 PM
She bloomed today :) and I crossed her to belle du jour

Good luck with your cross I hope you get some seeds !

I can not wait for mine to get bigger I am saving up some $$$ to buy a few more CV's then I will stop buying before I run out of room lol


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on July 07, 2009, 04:53:22 PM
Did you cross Belle and Blue Ballerina both ways? Both set seeds so the odds of getting the cross are doubled. One of the challenges with blues is getting larger flower size into them, which Belle could do.

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: helixturnhelix on July 07, 2009, 05:12:30 PM
I crossed her one way, because Belle was a second day bloom and I just used her pollen.  Hopefully she was pollinated by gator pride :)


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on August 24, 2009, 05:07:33 PM
It finally bloomed for me today. I have to say this is probably the CUTEST hibiscus I have seen yet. So small and perfect ! I just love it so much. Now I can't wait for this cv to get bigger and have bush full of blooms.
I will post picture in a few mins


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on August 25, 2009, 09:10:13 AM
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/kalibobs/blueballerina.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Cindy on August 28, 2009, 08:45:37 PM
I know what you mean about Blue Ballerina, Kerry.  It always strikes me the same way! It's such a formal little thing, with such perfect form, dark red eye, pure white ring, perfectly formed blue petals. It's a true miniature. :-)

I'm glad you like it so much too! 
Cindy


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on May 13, 2010, 09:00:56 AM
Charlie how would your rate this CV as far as growth ? I only ask because I am trying to figure out if mine is growing slow due to it being in self watering pot. Depending on your answer I will either keep it in the pot or put it in a regular pot.  It has been growing super super slow for me but its budding now. It wont grow branches either just small shoots then blooms


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Darkhorse on May 13, 2010, 10:49:03 PM
Kerry,

   My BB is a medium to slow grower.  Could it be that your plant is putting most of its energy into budding, rather than growing branches? 

   I remember a discussion about picking off buds as they appear to encourage more vegetative growth.  Maybe you should try that?

Jordan


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on May 14, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
What I've observed is that Blue Ballerina responds to heat or cold more than some others. In hot conditions it grows with above average vigor and particularly branches well. In milder conditions it slows way down. If this holds for your plant you should see a lot more growth in the July to October period this year.

Jordan's idea about pinching buds to encourage growth is not something I normally do (unless a plant seems stuck for some reason and is not growing at all but is making buds) but I know another commercial grower who did this routinely and thought it helped.

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on May 14, 2010, 03:27:10 PM
Thanks Charlie I will bring BB to my aunts house in front of a sunny window and let it get bigger.



Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: nina on September 01, 2010, 06:57:57 AM
By some sort of a mistake, I pruned my Blue Ballerina too much this spring, taking off all the branches but the trunk. To my surpise, it has branched into 5 new branches, and from April to now they are all about 40 cm long. This is an excellent growth this season (two year old plant). Last year, it seemed to be a slow grower.

Now, I am very curious to see what the bush will look like next season, when I prune all those 5 branches.


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: helixturnhelix on September 01, 2010, 07:01:07 AM
I agree Nina that BB is an interesting grower to say the least.  It starts off pretty slow, then explodes into growth blooming like crazy.  I bet next year you will have a very full bush :)


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on September 01, 2010, 07:46:43 AM
The 6 inch pots behave similarly - slow start and then suddenly they shoot up and branch out and get almost too big to ship in 6 inch pots!

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on September 12, 2010, 05:30:47 PM
Charlie will you be having any more this season ? I want to replace mine that died


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on September 13, 2010, 05:04:44 AM
Yes, there are some Blue Ballerina that were just potted up to 4 inch size. They need time to root through the pot and develop more healthy top growth but perhaps by the end of October a few small ones can ship. Most of them will ship in spring as much bigger 4 inch plants with several branches already started.

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Nievesgirl on October 06, 2010, 04:00:15 PM
Yes, there are some Blue Ballerina that were just potted up to 4 inch size. They need time to root through the pot and develop more healthy top growth but perhaps by the end of October a few small ones can ship. Most of them will ship in spring as much bigger 4 inch plants with several branches already started.

Charlie

I think I need one to grow out more so If I do happen to get one I will see if you guys can ship it in spring.  Out of all the CV's I have only 2 of them are doing poorly with my lights.



Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: laural on November 20, 2010, 04:52:47 AM
 My beautiful Blue Ballerina :)

(http://i56.tinypic.com/33acsqo.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on November 20, 2010, 01:26:20 PM
Laural, its good to see you are adding photos to the cultivar pages instead of all going into photos of the day pages. I've been planning to move some photos from the older Photos of the Day pages into the cultivar pages but its a slow job and I've not given it high priority. Thanks for adding them.

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Darkhorse on November 20, 2010, 07:24:27 PM
I've often been wondering how we should deal with that.  Maybe when we post photos, we should post them in both the blooms of the day and the cv's thread.


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on November 20, 2010, 08:37:11 PM
Double posting is fine with me. I'm thinking about the people who come to the forum and want to check out info and photos of specific varieties. They can use the search function to find the cv wherever it might be mentioned but it would be good to have as many photos as possible in the variety's own thread, too.

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on February 26, 2011, 10:32:23 AM
Message from Nina in another topic, reposted here.

Blue Ballerina is a nice plant and very floriferous. I really like a lot BB, here is my 2 year old plant, without one big branch that I pruned for propagation. I would really like to have some more plants like this.

Nina


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: laural on February 27, 2011, 11:57:47 AM
Hello everyone  :)  Blue Ballerina February 2011.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/9awm8l.jpg)


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: davidwood on February 27, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
Thats very very nice Laural.


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: blupit007 on March 09, 2011, 04:12:45 PM
WOW what a dark bloom Laural!  Very pretty, thanks for sharing! 


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Louis on March 09, 2011, 05:29:25 PM
stunning color, laural.

louis


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on March 10, 2011, 07:05:30 AM
Nice one, Laural. Where do you live?

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: blupit007 on March 23, 2011, 10:59:32 AM
Laural, do you know Petar?


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: DavidU on February 05, 2015, 02:26:50 PM
It's been said here many times before, but Blue Ballerina really is a great indoor bloomer.  This winter in NJ it has been the most consistent indoor bloomer I've had by far that isn't under artificial lighting.  I've also found this cv to be one of the first to bounce back with blooms after a spider mite attack. The color variations indoors this winter have been interesting too as you will see below.  In just 2 days apart I had a "pink" ballerina bloom, followed by a more usual purplish-blue ballerina bloom.


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: DavidU on February 18, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
It seems with each bloom the colors on my BB seem to change a bit.  While I love BIG flowers, the mini's are awesome in their own right.


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: blupit007 on May 30, 2015, 05:13:32 AM
Charlie, I've lost both of my Blue Ballerinas. Will you have any available soon?


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Charlie on May 31, 2015, 07:20:20 AM
Hi Kristin,

Nice to hear from you!

We had some good Blue Ballerinas earlier this spring but it looks like we are out now. We'll be doing new inventories for the updates in June and July soon, and might find more then but I just don't know at this time. You can also do a wish list on the forum - Cindy really tries to take care of them first.

Charlie


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: blupit007 on May 31, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
Thanks Charlie. I had to make a few cuts in the number of plants I have. They got too big! My friends appreciated it tho.... However, my Blue Ballerina was highly protected, along with Cindy's Heart, Laguna Starlight, Little Mermaid, Saffron....... But I will update my wishlist!


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: DavidU on July 12, 2015, 11:03:06 PM
Blue Ballerina is growing in well, compact, and always blooming!
 


Title: Re: Blue Ballerina
Post by: Grace on March 04, 2016, 03:02:57 PM
Here are two winter blooms from my Blue Ballerina.