Hidden Valley Hibiscus Forum
July 28, 2026, 09:16:15 AM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
: 2011 HVH Online Store is Open!
Home
Help
Search
Login
Register
Hidden Valley Hibiscus Forum
>
Hibiscus Talk
>
Hibiscus Science-Botany, Genetics, Hybridizing
>
Clockwise or counter-clockwise
Pages:
1
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Clockwise or counter-clockwise (Read 16337 times)
Pachrian
Posts: 266
Orange County, CA
Clockwise or counter-clockwise
«
on:
July 20, 2010, 11:18:26 AM »
I have a stupid question: what determines whether a hibiscus bloom overlaps clockwise or counter-clockwise?
I used to think it is genetics, like lefthandedness or righthandedness. But then I noticed blooms of the same cv can go in either direction. I will have to go through my pics to see if even blooms of the same bush can vary.
Logged
~Uli
Pachrian
Posts: 266
Orange County, CA
Re: Clockwise or counter-clockwise
«
Reply #1 on:
July 20, 2010, 11:49:58 AM »
Looking at the HVH page for Simple Pleasure it shows that blooms on the same bush can go either way. Odd...
Logged
~Uli
helixturnhelix
Seattle, WA
Posts: 1945
Re: Clockwise or counter-clockwise
«
Reply #2 on:
July 20, 2010, 09:07:02 PM »
That is an interesting observation! I have a feeling that it is more of an environmental thing rather than genetics. Just like a the spiral on a snail shell, depending on environmental conditions when the snail is developing determines which directions the spiral goes. It could be different with hibiscus though
Logged
Charlie
Administrator
Posts: 3646
Re: Clockwise or counter-clockwise
«
Reply #3 on:
July 21, 2010, 11:15:34 AM »
This topic comes up from time to time. In Australia the hibiscus shows have a category for "twin flowers" or 2 flowers of the same variety. To qualify they require that the blooms overlap in the same direction.
It does appear to be an environmental condition that causes it to go one way or the other. There has been some speculation that the direction that the bud faces while it develops determines which way the petals will overlap. Supposedly the reverse happens for northern hemisphere and southern hemisphere locations - meaning that buds facing east will open clockwise in the north but counter-clockwise in the southern hemisphere. I don't know that anyone has actually tested any of this but that's what I recall of some of the speculation about this curious hibiscus fact.
Charlie
Logged
Pachrian
Posts: 266
Orange County, CA
Re: Clockwise or counter-clockwise
«
Reply #4 on:
July 21, 2010, 11:28:54 AM »
Charlie, that theory sounds plausible, and the pic of my recent Bridal Path triplets certainly supports it. See the bud, it faces the same direction as the left flower (south), and if you imagine it open it will overlap the same way. The 2 flowers on the right face east and overlap the other way.
IMG_1992-Edit.jpg
(157.39 KB, 800x533 - viewed 1034 times.)
Logged
~Uli
Charlie
Administrator
Posts: 3646
Re: Clockwise or counter-clockwise
«
Reply #5 on:
July 21, 2010, 01:28:09 PM »
What a great example! If enough of us watch for this it should soon become apparent whether it holds true all or most of the time.
Great photo of Bridal Path, very dramatic!
Charlie
Logged
Pages:
1
Go Up
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Hibiscus Talk
-----------------------------
=> 2020 Flower Photos
=> Hibiscus Cultivar Discussions
=> 2019 Flower Photos of the Day
=> 2018 Flower Photos of the Day
=> 2018 Store Opening
=> 2017 Online Store Opening
=> 2017 Flower Photos of the Day
=> 2016 Flower Photos of the Day
=> 2015 Hibiscus Flowers of the Day
=> 2015 Online Store Opening
=> 2014 Hibiscus Photos of the Day
=> 2013 Hibiscus Photos of the Day
=> Southern California Hibiscus Club
=> Hibiscus Care Discussions
=> Greenhouses and Over-Wintering Hibiscus
=> Hibiscus as Houseplants
=> Hibiscus Stories
=> Hibiscus Science-Botany, Genetics, Hybridizing
=> Hibiscus Mystery Game
=> 2012 Hibiscus Photos of the Day
=> 2011 Hibiscus Flower Photos of the Day
=> 2009-2010 Hibiscus Flower Photos of the Day
=> 2013 New Seedlings From HVH
=> 2016 Online Store Opening
-----------------------------
Hibiscus Forum Guidelines - Start Here!
-----------------------------
=> 2020 and the Coronavirus
=> How To Join the Forum
=> Posting Guidelines
-----------------------------
Wishlist
-----------------------------
=> Wishlist
Loading...