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Author Topic: Which Cv's will root ?  (Read 24328 times)
Nievesgirl

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« on: October 06, 2009, 07:42:13 AM »

Hi Charlie ,

I want to know which Cv's I have will root and which will not. The cuttings I did , did not take I think i put to much water and they rotted  Undecided

Here is my list

1. Antique rose
2. Black dragon
3. Blue Ballerina
4. Blue bayou ( if you had this one in the past)
5. Cinnamon Girl
6. Cranberry muffin
7. Creme de cacao
8. Dragon's Heart
9. Gator pride
10. Haute Couture
11. Heartbreak hotel
12. In the mood
13. Midnight flyer
14. Nightfire
15. Passion Play
16. Rocket's red Glare
17. Simple pleasures
18. Valentine's day
19. Vood doo Magic
20. Wild dream
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~Kerry~
Charlie
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 10:01:27 AM »

These will all root except for Antique Rose and possibly Blue Bayou which I have not tried. I don't mean root easily like an old fashioned garden variety, but if the conditions are right they can all be rooted. It is easier to graft them, because the conditions required are more flexible. The difficulty with grafting is having suitable root stock plants on hand, and then it takes some practice to make the cuts correctly. After that it works fairly reliably.

Rooting is usually done under mist and on top of a heat source to keep the cuttings warm all the time without drying them out. When they "rot" it can be because they are already infected with fungus or other pathogen but often the cutting dies from other causes and then microorganisms take over, giving the appearance of "rotting".

Rooting hibiscus reliably isn't easy. For example, the huge horticultural company Hines wanted to offer Heartbreak Hotel but they could not get enough success rooting it to do so. Some of the varieties on your list I am lucky to get 1 in 5 cuttings to succeed so when I say they root I mean that sometimes they root but often they die before they root. The difficulty of propagating hibiscus is a big factor in the cost of producing them.

This is another example of how complex growing hibiscus can be. You said you think you used too much water, but one of the easiest techniques of all for rooting hibiscus is to stick the cutting in a glass containing about an inch of water. You can't get more water than that, right? It becomes apparent that more is going on when sticking a cutting other than whether or not too much water is present. 

Voodoo Magic is probably the easiest one on that list to root. You might want to experiment with cuttings from it until you find a way that works in your unique situation.

Charlie
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helixturnhelix
Seattle, WA

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 10:05:26 AM »

Of the list that you have I have rooted the following:

Blue Ballerina
Simple Pleasures
Creme de Cacoa

Im pretty sure that these can be rooted:

Black Dragon
Cinnamon Girl
Cranberry muffin
Dragons Heart
Gator Pride
Haute Couture
Midnight flier
Passion Play
Rockets Red Glare
Valentines Day
Voodoo Magic
Wild Dream
In the mood

And im pretty sure these have to be grafted:

Antique rose
Blue bayou
Heartbreak Hotel
Nightfire

For the most part, almost all of charlies hybrids should root on their own and if they don't they better have pretty awesome flowers and nice bushes.  I think just based on relative abundance on the website, I would assume good rooters would be available most of the time, the poorer rooters (but will still root on their own) are probably a bit more rare.  WD maybe a grafted variety just because its parent Rosalin is a grafted one, but based my WD cutting, I cant see a graft "scar"  which is pretty easy to see on younger plants.  Well im sure Charlie could correct me if I am wrong, but those are my guesses Smiley
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helixturnhelix
Seattle, WA

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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 10:06:00 AM »

LOL charlie just posted Tongue
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Nievesgirl

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 11:52:31 AM »

Charlie I used the foam starter cubes but they got mold on them. So this is why I said maybe too much water ? I will try it again later when I have more braches to cut.

I have stormy rainbow, carolina breeze, and lady bug also but I think you said you never had these. I know Carolina Breeze roots in soil the ebay seller told me he just cuts and puts them in soil and some root and some don't.

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~Kerry~
helixturnhelix
Seattle, WA

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 02:04:45 PM »

I had some success with Acapulco gold last time i tried I got all 3 cuttings to root.  I just cut this cv back again so hopefully will have some luck there.  I was thinking that I bet the cvs that are readily available in the store are probably good rooters.  Why else would they always be in stock Smiley
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Charlie
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 03:04:34 PM »

Kerry, mold does sound like too much water. I can't remember mold growing on Oasis but there is bound to be an explanation.

Chris, for sure cvs we have a lot of must root reasonably well, but that's not the whole story. They also have to grow so that lots of wood is available which means either vigorously upward or lots of side branches. Acapulco Gold is a decent rooter that makes lots of wood.

Charlie
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helixturnhelix
Seattle, WA

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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 05:19:36 PM »

Oh thats interesting charlie Smiley  I must say AG is a good brancher lol
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