davidwood
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« Reply #135 on: July 03, 2011, 08:10:52 PM » |
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Has anyone tried Garlic Plants to "run off" spider mites? I was reading on an organic site that Garlic can be used as a companion plant to repel aphids and spider mites.
I just spent 3 hrs washing leaves off 150 plants and the bayer 3 in 1 seems to have no effect on them this year. I looked at Neem extract but the label said not to apply to known sensitive plants and had Hibiscus flowers listed. Does this mean just the flowers or the plant? Would it be better to dilute it more than the label states?
I was looking for the instructions on the net for how much to use as I had lost the label and also read that about Neem oil, I still used it mind and had no problem, I am fairly certain it means sensitive to the open bloom. |
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« Reply #136 on: July 03, 2011, 08:29:49 PM » |
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The warning about neem oil means spraying it on open flowers could stain the flowers but since hibiscus flowers only last a day or two that is not really a drawback in most situations.
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dayvedayve
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« Reply #137 on: July 03, 2011, 08:59:10 PM » |
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Thanks for the Neem info. I will give it a try then.
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dayvedayve
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« Reply #138 on: July 21, 2011, 04:51:49 AM » |
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Okay the Neem oil has not gotten rid of them. How effective is the dish soap method? How much soap do i use if I am going to use a 1 gal garden sprayer? Which soap is safe/best?
So far I have been using the Bayer 3 in 1 and Neem oil in rotation. They return very quickly, but I think this is due to the drought conditions in my area. We did get some good rain in the past few days so hopefully it will give the buggers something else to suck on instead of my Hibiscus.
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« Reply #139 on: July 21, 2011, 06:30:03 AM » |
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Some people do spray with regular household detergent and vegetable oils. The detergents can have many additives so I can't really recommend them for safety for use on hibiscus. Soaps and oils that are sold for horticultural use are far safer and in fact the Safer Company offers a good soap product. Hort oils like we offer at HVH are highly refined, light weight oils that evaporate from the plants after application, leaving no stains behind.
Another natural product we have used and recommend for difficult to control insects like mealy bugs is Limonene, made from orange peels. This stuff is highly effective and although I have never used it for spider mites it would not surprise me if it worked well. Check the online store for details about Limonene.
By the way, has anyone been using the Wilt-Pruf product for mites that was recommended by one of the contributors here last year? That would be another safe way to treat for mites if it works in a wide range of conditions.
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« Reply #140 on: July 21, 2011, 10:01:34 AM » |
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By the way, has anyone been using the Wilt-Pruf product for mites that was recommended by one of the contributors here last year? That would be another safe way to treat for mites if it works in a wide range of conditions.
Charlie
I bought it but have been too afraid to use it for some reason. Something about spraying in the sunlight that scares me. I'm thinking I will use it before I bring them inside for the winter. But I have been having much success with the Kontos, I don't need anything else. Best $175 Ive spent yet on bug repelant. |
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farmer d
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« Reply #141 on: September 04, 2011, 07:44:11 AM » |
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I had been wondering for the last two months why my monster Chariots of Fire plant looks like it is shrinking and thinning out. I am pretty sure now it is spider mites. With the weather finally heating up and I recently did two sprayings for thrips with Greenlight w/ Spinosad (which claims to control spider mites) I noticed COF perk up finally and start blooming again. I never saw any webbing or mites but the increasing rate of yellowing leaves along with the overall look of the plant surely was a sign. These little buggers really drain the life out of anything especially when talking about such a robust bush like this one. I sprayed every leaf and branch of all 70+ hibs and especially the ground in my planters very thoroughly (man that is a lot of time and work). Now after two sprayings I want to do another with a different product to get the newly hatched adults - thinking of Brayer Advanced 3 -1 even though it was mentioned above that it wasn't effective. Greenlight gave me good results and I have the thrips to thank for spraying in the first place (they loved my Plumeria). I still have the Wilt Pruf ready to go but since the spinosad seemed to work effectively I'll stick to this regimen for now. Check out the pic to see the damage from them on COF - entire bottom half of plant defoliated - but new leaves are starting to show.  Farmer D |
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« Reply #142 on: September 05, 2011, 08:12:03 AM » |
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D, I commented on this in the September blooms page, but I also wanted to tell you that a good product for you would be the bug blaster that HVH sells. http://www.hiddenvalleynaturearts.com/acatalog/bugblaster.htm
This will save you so much time and back ache. I got it this spring before I moved all mine outside for the summer. I have been using Kontos VERY successfully. But wasn't sure if it would be able to stand up the the summer heat. Knowing what a backache it was last year to drag all my pots into the yard and spray and rub each leaf. It works nicely and may help you out a ton, especially if Kontos is not a good product for you to use seeing that all your plants are in the ground.
As it is right now, Kontos is the only mite/bug control I have used all summer. And I have been absolutely bug free. NOT ONE! amazing!
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davidwood
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« Reply #143 on: September 05, 2011, 02:40:20 PM » |
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I cant see why Kontos would not work for plants in the ground, they still drink the water you give them and its not like you have to give them much, mine work out at about 1 pint per plant per week and like Kristen have been Mite free for over a year, it is expensive and even more for me with the shipping but I still say its the best 200 dollars I have ever spent.
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davidwood
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« Reply #144 on: September 05, 2011, 05:04:00 PM » |
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Another natural product we have used and recommend for difficult to control insects like mealy bugs is Limonene, made from orange peels. This stuff is highly effective and although I have never used it for spider mites it would not surprise me if it worked well. Check the online store for details about Limonene.
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Charlie I am going to give the Limonene a try for my Mealy Bugs, Mealys are and always have been my biggest problem here, Kontos Safari and Bayer will control them fine on the plant, by plant I mean the stems and the underside of the leaves ect but it wont stop them when they penetrate the actual bud, I am losing a lot of buds, either by the Mealys or by me trying to wash them off, its a right pain. So do you think a regular spray of the buds with this Limonene will be ok and a help.
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« Reply #145 on: September 05, 2011, 06:33:51 PM » |
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One more thing to add about Kontos, I bought a bottle in the fall probably sept/oct ish... I have about 75 potted plants I water with it weekly. And I am still on the same bottle. So if you do the math, the $180 you spend for it is worth a year.
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farmer d
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« Reply #146 on: September 06, 2011, 02:23:07 PM » |
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Thank you Kristen, David and Jordan - I just purchased some Kontos after reading all of your posts and realizing that it is a systemic. This whole time I thought it was only a spray which I am very wary of using myself.
Today it is 98 so far and I'm sure the spider mites are loving it so this is a needed step to take to bring things under my control. I think a systemic should work well with my in ground plants. I have had good results with Safari Tree & Shrub for aphids so I don't see why this shouldn't work too.
Kristen I agree about it being worth a million bucks after remembering what you went through last year with spider mites. I can handle all the other pests but the spider mites are something else.
Thank you all again - Farmer D
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farmer d
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« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2012, 12:47:53 PM » |
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Oh-oh...Does this look like a spider mite to anyone else as well?
Came off of my Some Like It Hot this morning. The leaf has some fine webbing too - if this is a spider mite wow pretty early on to see them all ready....
Also does anyone have a take or experience on using predatory mites to eliminate them effectively?
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« Reply #148 on: February 19, 2012, 03:36:39 PM » |
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Here is a pic of the leaf it is on. I saw two crawling around and another something very small but wasn't quite the same.
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« Reply #149 on: February 19, 2012, 06:05:08 PM » |
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Lots of water spraying will knock the spider mites quickly, Darren, and then Kontos will keep them away. If you use both together you seem to get the quickest and best results. This winter has been so warm here in S. Calif. that it hasn't really killed the bugs in the normal way!
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