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jj

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« on: January 18, 2010, 05:15:00 PM »

Hi, Jan again on a different topic.  I live in the South (Louisiana) and have to put my hibisicus in the house in the winter.  They do not do well there and I'm wondering if any of you have any suggestions.  My house is old (as in pre-Civil War) and does not have central air/heat.  Could this be the problem.  I end up with several branches with tufts of leaves at the end and very few, if any flowers.  When they go back outside in the spring, they do great (unless the cats knock them off the porch)  Angry  How can I get the plants to GROW in the winter?Huh??  Thanks!
JJ (Jan)
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Charlie
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 10:27:40 AM »

Hi Jan,

Good question. I bet a lot of people have a similar situation.

Growing hibiscus inside the house is done for 2 reasons - first would be to guarantee the survival of the tropical hibiscus over winter and second would be to enjoy growing them in winter and getting growth and blooms. Survival is important, of course, and in some situations that is the best that can be expected. However, if it is possible to both keep them alive and get them to grow and bloom then of course we want to do that.

Growing indoors is all about heat and light. If the plants can be placed in rooms that are warmed up daily and kept in the 60's at night they will do best. Cooler rooms are a lot better than outdoors but won't encourage growth and blooming as well as warmer locations. Warmth is #1, but light is a close second. The winter sun is lower in the sky than in summer, and sometimes shines directly into windows in winter that do not get direct sun in summer. If you can identify the sunniest windows in your home, and then place the hibiscus where they will get some of this direct sun they will be most likely to grow and bloom during winter.

We have one member of this forum who is successfully growing his hibiscus in a room with no windows and no sunlight. To do that a powerful 1000 Watt HID light was installed, and it has provided enough light to get lots of lush growth and the plants, which were pruned in late Fall, are now budding up.

If your plants are in a warm location that gets good light but they still lose their lower leaves and do not seem happy then suspect spider mites in that case. The obnoxious little pests like the indoor environment and are protected from most predator insects that feed on them outside in the garden. It could be that they did their damage and are now gone but unless a very close inspection with proper magnifier shows no more mites it is best to assume that some are still on the plants and are damaging the leaves.

We have many reports of dealing with spider mites in other areas of this forum. Use the Search function at the top right above - type spider mites in the blank field and then press the "Search" button. There is also a detailed spider mite page on the HVH main website under "Pests" at this link: http://www.hiddenvalleyhibiscus.com/care/spidermites.htm

Once the spider mites are under control, and the plants are in the warmest, brightest conditions in the house, how can the bare stem plants be encouraged to leaf out again? In addition to regular applications of fertilizer, Growth Enhancer can be used. The hormones in this product naturally and gently encourage new growth. The stronger hormones in Wake-up Spray can also help, although it works best as a spray when some leaves are present to absorb it.

The most certain way to get new growth on bare stems is to prune those stems half to 2/3s of the way down the stem. However, since the plants are not actively growing it is safest to prune only one stem on each plant. Wait for new growth to show on the pruned stem and then prune a second stem. By doing it just one stem at a time the plant will always have leaves to generate energy while the pruned stem starts new growth. For more details on pruning see the pruning section of the main website.

Good luck with your indoor plants and please let us know what your future experience is!

Charlie

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Nievesgirl

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 01:59:21 PM »

Hi Jan you can also try T5's

I like T5's because they are cooler ( heat wise) and cheater to run.
I have like 20 plants under one 24" t5 fixture and I have nice lush bushes. They do bloom once in a while but I think its due to lack of enought light. I just bought my 48" t5 fixture so I will keep you update on how the plants like it.

I will take some pictures tonight and show you update results of growing under t5's
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Darkhorse

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 06:30:14 PM »

Hey Kerry,

  How much do your T5's raise your power bill?

Just curious.  I may get lights for my plants next winter, as they don't seem to be doing well indoors when it's overcast for a few weeks.

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Nievesgirl

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 02:02:17 PM »

Hey Kerry,

  How much do your T5's raise your power bill?

Just curious.  I may get lights for my plants next winter, as they don't seem to be doing well indoors when it's overcast for a few weeks.



Well My bill is lower compared when I had my aquarium running with Metal Halides. My bill is normally high because of the heater and AC we have them running a lot.  But my bill is lower from when I had the aquariums. I will compare my bill this month and compare my bill in march ( when sun returns to balcony) and I will post again for you Cheesy
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jj

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 07:14:20 PM »

Thanks to both you and Charlie for your tips.  I have moved my plants to a sunnier window than previously and am hoping for the best.  I'll let you all know how I fare.
As to Copper Moon.  I've located two of the 3 cultivars you suggested, Charlie, but cannot find Standing Ovation in the current selections.  What category is it in?  Thanks.
Jan
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Darkhorse

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2010, 01:41:12 AM »

haha thx Kerry.  I'm scared right now about my bill in general because I've always been an apartment dweller and I've just moved to a house.

Plants did ok with the move, going from the bay area where there's been a reasonable amount of sun to the central valley where there's almost no sun right now.  Sleeping Beauty though I think isn't going to make it.  Sad
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2010, 11:25:45 PM »

JJ, looks like we are out of Standing Ovation at the moment. I hope to have more in late summer or early next year. Meantime here is a photo of it, one of my favorite doubles due not only to the large bloom but the overall performance and appearance of this variety.

Charlie


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Nievesgirl

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 11:52:32 AM »

JJ here are some pictures



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Charlie
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 05:27:11 PM »

Beautiful, lush looking plants, Kerry! It's good that you have experience with mites now that will help you keep them safe this summer.

Charlie
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jj

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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2010, 12:36:47 PM »

I didn't realize that I had not posted here in awhile.  Whew.   We all try to do more than we can do in a day, don't we?HuhHuh  I moved my hibiscus to a brighter window and they did quite well this past winter.  They actually bloomed several times each.  They are outside again now and flourishing.  I decided after some consideration to plant one of them that is not exactly flourishing in the ground and put it back in a pot in the fall.  It's not doing really well anyway but I'm still hopefull that it will pick up. 
Still looking for Copper Moon!   Tongue
Jan
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