davidwood
David In Nha Trang Vietnam
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« on: November 20, 2010, 06:36:27 PM » |
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Over the last few months I have occasionally tried to get seeds but with no luck. But last week what with the lower temperatures I tried again and the photo shows what I have. The problem is I have never actually seen a seed pod, well certainly not a pod hat has stayed on the plant for 5 days. Do you think this may have seeds in it or is it just rotting on the plant,and if it is a seed pod what do I do next.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 07:21:45 PM » |
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I don't think that's a seed pod unfortunately. The ovary (round thing in the middle) would be much more swollen than that.
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Charlie
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2010, 08:32:36 PM » |
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Right, it's not a viable pod but it is the beginning of one. This is what they do when pollinated but are not going to develop properly. Probably it is still too hot or something else went wrong with the process. Keep trying and when you get a good one it will be a healthy green color and stay that way for at least 6 weeks before turning brown when the seeds are ripe. You can break into the one you have now and see if there are tiny white beginnings of seeds forming.
Charlie
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 09:13:03 PM » |
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David, Is your house cooler? Maybe you take the plant you pollinate inside right after you pollinate it, and let it carry it's course inside. You may have to sacrifice some blooms from that plant for a couple weeks, but at least you may get some seeds out of it...
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2010, 09:39:02 PM » |
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Great advice Kristen, I was going to suggest the same thing  The plants seem to slow down when forming seeds anyway, so bringing them inside to ripen is a great idea. |
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davidwood
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 05:08:08 AM » |
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Thanks all, bit disappointed but I was nearly there. We will get another cold snap around December [70f] and i will try again. As for the idea of bringing it in the house, well a good idea but the problem is its the same inside as out, as is night and day,and at 70f i don't even bother with the air/con so the bedroom is not much use.
I did break into the pod as Charlie suggested and it was a just a brown wet mush.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 06:47:34 AM » |
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David, here is a pic of a seed pod on my Bon Temps. Around 3 weeks old.  One of 3 on Black Dream. 2 weeks old  One on Cindy's Heart. 6 weeks old  Don't give up. |
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davidwood
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 11:46:58 AM » |
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Thanks Doll, at least now I know what I am looking for. I certainly wont give up and as I explained to Jordan i will be happy with just one pod, I just want the thrill of creating a unique plant from start to finish.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 04:17:22 PM » |
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David, the old time hibiscus hybridizers have a saying to the effect that seeds won't take until the nights drop into the 60's. That is not 100 percent true but is what hybridizers have found to be typical over the years. Don't give up, one of these days you will hit the seed jackpot!
Charlie
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davidwood
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2010, 06:23:37 PM » |
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I really have my fingers crossed that this may be a good pod. The nights have been about 67f and the days about 75, it did spend one morning in the sun but as soon as I realised I brought it in the house, its about 9 days old now.
Not sure if this means anything or not but the stem that is holding the pod has remained green, I have not seen that before as the stem normaly goes yellow, maybe thats just me hoping and means nothing.
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Charlie
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2010, 07:13:50 AM » |
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You're getting closer, David. The pod looks just right and the stem holding it (called a peduncle) remaining green is critical. The only negative here is that the sepals surrounding the pod should also remain green but they are turning yellow. That could be the first sign that the pod is about to be rejected. Usually the sepals (collectively called the calyx) remain green and need to be removed by trimming them off. Now it's wait and see time.
Charlie
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davidwood
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2010, 11:12:54 AM » |
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Yes I had noticed that, on Dolls picture the sepals are green. Still its 10 days now and has had me captivated.
Would be an interesting cross as well, the pollen is from Think Pink and placed onto Pochanontas.
Its fallen off.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2010, 08:27:58 PM » |
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You'll get one sooner or later. Use the freshest pollen on just opened blooms for best results. You can peel the petals back of a bloom that is about to open but has not yet done so and apply pollen to that flower with good results often. Be sure to move the flower into the shade for the first few days.
Hang in there, it will happen!
charlie
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2010, 05:21:27 PM » |
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Charlie how did Vin Extraordinaire ever work out, are you ever going to be selling that one . That one is unbelievable I would love to have it .
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 09:23:20 PM » |
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Vin Extraordinaire shows wonderful flowers and is well worth growing. I think Chris has the only one not at HVH. I tried it as a rooted plant and although it rooted the plants did not do all that well. So, its back to grafting and I expect there will be 20 or so plants available in summer, 2011.
Charlie
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