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helixturnhelix
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« on: June 27, 2010, 08:04:33 PM »

Hi Charlie,

Any seedlings bloom for you with a picotee edge?  It seems like it is a pretty rare thing to find in hibiscus, but wow what a dramatic flower that would be.   

On a side note, did that really cool speckled brown seedling end up rooting? 
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Darkhorse

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 10:26:18 PM »

I was wondering the same thing myself... Grin
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Charlie
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 07:31:08 AM »

There are a few hibiscus that can be called picotee. This term usually refers to a flower showing a darker edge around a lighter colored base color. There are a lot of hibiscus that have an outer edge that is lighter than the base color but this style is not usually considered picotee.

We've offered a few varieties that are picotee style - Allure, Blueberry Smoothie, Double Trouble, Miss Congeniality, Magic Carpet Ride, and Torch Song come to mind. Scroll through the Gallery pages to see these with the darker edge. http://www.hiddenvalleynaturearts.com/cbcultivars

With hibiscus, many times the outer edge is a prominent feature when the flower is freshly opened, but the color will change or fade once exposed to sunlight and high temperatures and in those cases the flower would no longer show the picotee look. Not sure whether that would eliminate them from the picotee class or not, but several of those listed have that changing quality to the edge.

One cv that does not lose the edge color is Hoosiers. It has white petals surrounded by a distinct and vivid red color. Very pretty flower. Not a very good bush so not found very often in hibiscus collections. My plants of it have hung in there for quite a few years now which tells me that the bush does have longevity if not good growth habit.

Another picotee that Dale Dubin hybridized is Whipt Butta. That one is also white or pale yellow but this time with a darker yellow edge. Dale was interested in developing more picotees before he quit hybridizing to attend to his medical interests.

I'm sure there are other examples out there, but flowers with darker edges around lighter base petals is one of the more rare types of hibiscus flowers.

Below is a good example of Hoosiers.

Charlie



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helixturnhelix
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 05:43:13 PM »

Wow that bloom is really amazing!  I love the picotee that is striking like that.  Its too bad that the bush is bad, do you use Hoosiers to hybridize another flower that is similar but on a better bush?
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Charlie
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 04:58:24 AM »

I used it a little but then stopped. I still have several old plants of it and may graft it again because someone always wants to give it a try despite the bush. The flowers vary in the amount of red and white they show - with more white and less red as it gets hotter - but are always a real pleasure to behold.

Charlie
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helixturnhelix
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 12:09:42 PM »

You need to update your HVH tour on the website!  I bet alot o people would really like to take a virual tour of your greenhouses and see where the magic happens Smiley 

Blue berry smoothie does have a distinct picotee, are you still propagating that one?
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Nievesgirl

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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 02:54:28 PM »

So I went through IHS data base and found some Cv's with this trait. I also listed Cv's that may carrier it . I only added blooms that had light petals with dark edges. There are more dark petals then light edges so I will look into those later.

Most of the Cv's are red,orange, and yellow.

It has inspired me to try to get blue,purple, brown, or even green picotee blooms Smiley
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Charlie
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 09:10:37 AM »

Chris, updating the HVH greenhouse tour is on Cindy's wish list of things to find time to do. She left it alone as the last unchanged part of the site created by first web master Yvonne, sort of as a tribute to all the hard work Yvonne put into creating the site starting back in 1998. The greenhouses have changed since then but are also set to change again in the next couple of years. We'll figure out something interesting to do with the "tour" sooner or later.

And yes, Blueberry Smoothie does show the picotee effect. I'm not sure if I have that cv any longer but if it ever blooms I will graft it and try to get it going again.

Charlie.
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